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	<description>Lucas Ihlein</description>
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		<title>Comment on Homework by Paul matosic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul matosic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lucas,
thanks for including me on this site, its great not being in the show!
You will be interested to know that you have not been included in any shows here either.
But all that is about to change,potentially.
I am preparing a proposal for a commission with IETM  Australian Council for arts Collaboration that specifically addresses the area of environmental auditing climate change . It also aspires to link Australia with Europe.
The project that I am proposing is on going and links two sites via live streaming.
I shall not go into further detail but I could do with talking about the potential of us collaborating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lucas,<br />
thanks for including me on this site, its great not being in the show!<br />
You will be interested to know that you have not been included in any shows here either.<br />
But all that is about to change,potentially.<br />
I am preparing a proposal for a commission with IETM  Australian Council for arts Collaboration that specifically addresses the area of environmental auditing climate change . It also aspires to link Australia with Europe.<br />
The project that I am proposing is on going and links two sites via live streaming.<br />
I shall not go into further detail but I could do with talking about the potential of us collaborating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Future Farmers&#8217; Future Problem by Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/the-future-farmers-future-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-3433</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE from Anna the curator - the following series of emails, which are presented in reverse chronological order, tell the story of what happened next. Note Dan&#039;s trademark sense of humour here. (These emails have been slightly edited to protect the correspondents&#039; personal details). 

I&#039;ll post some pictures of the dismantling soon...

- - - 

Hi Lucas
 
sorry I  kept meaning to forward you this email from Dan but... well you know... time...
 
Anyway in the end Amy, Dan, Ian and I decided to go down the dismantling then recycling  / re-using /  returning route for the Sunshine Still and Sun Runner. It is a pity because I would have liked to see the sculptures kept intact  - but on the other hand this is what we had always planned to do.
 
Thanks for all your help with this and for incorporating it into your project – which has been a great success.
 
cheers
 
Anna
 
- - -

From: Dan from Future Farmers
Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:05 PM
To: Anna at the MCA
 
Hi Anna,
 
Great to hear from you!
 
I came up with some possible plans:
 
1. Fiberglass the sun runner cover, turning it into the hull for a ship, use the still as the mast for the sail. Sail back to the US

2. Sink the sculptures on the great barrier reef, creating habitats for fish and coral. Go scuba diving, spearfishing and take pictures with it.

3. Leave on Julia Gillard&#039;s doorstep in the middle of the night.
 
In all seriousness, after seeing how things are recycled in the museum, i think it is a great idea to reuse that material in house. Much of the material that went into it was reused and it would be good to see it go once more through the cycle. I know that the bike place would love those bike parts, The art school would love that steel,, MCA could use most of that wood all over again, chris probably wants that awesome gear system that he spent so much time on :) tell chris i said hi
 
I think it would nice to see how much the sculptures could be reused, lucas could take pictures for his blog, its not often that people get to see that part of the process. 
 
Also, I don&#039;t think its necessary to return the sun runner cover, unless amy has any objection, ( i know that there is a possibility that it could be recreated in the near future). I would like some copies of Lucas&#039;s print of our audit drawing. 
 
Anna, Thanks so much for a great experience, we had fun, caused a little trouble, and everything worked out. You were truly a pleasure to work with :) THANK YOUU!!!
 
Sincerely, 
Dan


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On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Anna wrote:


Hi Amy, Dan and  Ian
 
I hope you’re all happy and well.
 
So the time has finally come for the In the Balance exhibition to come down  - it will finish on Sunday. Unfortunately, after a lot of local enquiries we have not been able to find a suitable home for the Sunshine Still. It a real pity but on the other hand it has been an absolute pleasure having it on display at the MCA for all this time. 

As I said, it has been a real crowd pleaser and staff favourite. Starting from Monday the install crew will dismantle the work, salvaging and re-using as many of the materials as we can. If you like, I can see if there are any small parts of the sculpture that we might be able send to you in the US -- I was thinking perhaps we could send the fabric covering for the Sun Runner and the alcohol moonshining instruments – along with (as discussed): Dan’s drawings, the laptop and dynamo . Please let me know if this is something you’d like to look into?
 
Anyway, hopefully this is not too much of a sad ending!

It has been a real pleasure working with you all and Im really looking forward to hearing about your new works in the pipeline.
 
All the best
 
Anna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE from Anna the curator &#8211; the following series of emails, which are presented in reverse chronological order, tell the story of what happened next. Note Dan&#8217;s trademark sense of humour here. (These emails have been slightly edited to protect the correspondents&#8217; personal details). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post some pictures of the dismantling soon&#8230;</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Hi Lucas</p>
<p>sorry I  kept meaning to forward you this email from Dan but&#8230; well you know&#8230; time&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway in the end Amy, Dan, Ian and I decided to go down the dismantling then recycling  / re-using /  returning route for the Sunshine Still and Sun Runner. It is a pity because I would have liked to see the sculptures kept intact  &#8211; but on the other hand this is what we had always planned to do.</p>
<p>Thanks for all your help with this and for incorporating it into your project – which has been a great success.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Anna</p>
<p>- &#8211; -</p>
<p>From: Dan from Future Farmers<br />
Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:05 PM<br />
To: Anna at the MCA</p>
<p>Hi Anna,</p>
<p>Great to hear from you!</p>
<p>I came up with some possible plans:</p>
<p>1. Fiberglass the sun runner cover, turning it into the hull for a ship, use the still as the mast for the sail. Sail back to the US</p>
<p>2. Sink the sculptures on the great barrier reef, creating habitats for fish and coral. Go scuba diving, spearfishing and take pictures with it.</p>
<p>3. Leave on Julia Gillard&#8217;s doorstep in the middle of the night.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, after seeing how things are recycled in the museum, i think it is a great idea to reuse that material in house. Much of the material that went into it was reused and it would be good to see it go once more through the cycle. I know that the bike place would love those bike parts, The art school would love that steel,, MCA could use most of that wood all over again, chris probably wants that awesome gear system that he spent so much time on <img src='http://www.environmental-audit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  tell chris i said hi</p>
<p>I think it would nice to see how much the sculptures could be reused, lucas could take pictures for his blog, its not often that people get to see that part of the process. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think its necessary to return the sun runner cover, unless amy has any objection, ( i know that there is a possibility that it could be recreated in the near future). I would like some copies of Lucas&#8217;s print of our audit drawing. </p>
<p>Anna, Thanks so much for a great experience, we had fun, caused a little trouble, and everything worked out. You were truly a pleasure to work with <img src='http://www.environmental-audit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  THANK YOUU!!!</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Dan</p>
<p>- &#8211; -</p>
<p>On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Anna wrote:</p>
<p>Hi Amy, Dan and  Ian</p>
<p>I hope you’re all happy and well.</p>
<p>So the time has finally come for the In the Balance exhibition to come down  &#8211; it will finish on Sunday. Unfortunately, after a lot of local enquiries we have not been able to find a suitable home for the Sunshine Still. It a real pity but on the other hand it has been an absolute pleasure having it on display at the MCA for all this time. </p>
<p>As I said, it has been a real crowd pleaser and staff favourite. Starting from Monday the install crew will dismantle the work, salvaging and re-using as many of the materials as we can. If you like, I can see if there are any small parts of the sculpture that we might be able send to you in the US &#8212; I was thinking perhaps we could send the fabric covering for the Sun Runner and the alcohol moonshining instruments – along with (as discussed): Dan’s drawings, the laptop and dynamo . Please let me know if this is something you’d like to look into?</p>
<p>Anyway, hopefully this is not too much of a sad ending!</p>
<p>It has been a real pleasure working with you all and Im really looking forward to hearing about your new works in the pipeline.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Anna</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venting? by Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/venting/comment-page-1/#comment-3406</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Splendour indeed! I especially loved the swelling bassons, and I think I would quite like to be forced to wear a hair shirt.

BTW here are those green web hosting links I mentioned: http://www.delicious.com/cogat/green+hosting. Best overview at http://news.oreilly.com/2008/06/building-the-green-data-center.html.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splendour indeed! I especially loved the swelling bassons, and I think I would quite like to be forced to wear a hair shirt.</p>
<p>BTW here are those green web hosting links I mentioned: <a href="http://www.delicious.com/cogat/green+hosting" rel="nofollow">http://www.delicious.com/cogat/green+hosting</a>. Best overview at <a href="http://news.oreilly.com/2008/06/building-the-green-data-center.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.oreilly.com/2008/06/building-the-green-data-center.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Book by Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/guest-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3384</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 05:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i wish you were here too...

 where are you guys? i need carl to do his silly bicycle dance to ward off the evil spirits of climate change!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish you were here too&#8230;</p>
<p> where are you guys? i need carl to do his silly bicycle dance to ward off the evil spirits of climate change!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Book by jen</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/guest-book/comment-page-1/#comment-3309</link>
		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 05:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi lucas :) 

we wish you were here so we could draw on the walls.

jen and carl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi lucas <img src='http://www.environmental-audit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>we wish you were here so we could draw on the walls.</p>
<p>jen and carl</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organisational Change by Jasmin Stephens</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/organisational-change/comment-page-1/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmin Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lucas

A belated note of appreciation to acknowledge all the contributions to &#039;Environmental Audit’s attention to the processes of exhibition review. I must note that I was not responding to John McDonald’s review. Rather, I was reflecting on your need to contain the potential scope of the project given the time and energy available.
 
As you deliberated about what could still be covered, while allowing space for new issues to arise, I needed to put my hand up and stress that the issue of reviewing should not be left out. This is because, as you have stated, the broader philosophical question of how value is ascribed to human endeavours underpins all your auditing activities. 

Also, while the presentation of exhibitions is related to, it is not the same as vital activities such as specific art projects, participatory actions and campaigns which Catriona refers to. Exhibitions have their own protocols for reviewing which are interweave all gallery-sited relationships. I have appreciated the opportunity to think about how these inherited ‘auditing’ processes relate to emerging approaches to evaluation and assessment of which Environmental Audit is an expression.

Jasmin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas</p>
<p>A belated note of appreciation to acknowledge all the contributions to &#8216;Environmental Audit’s attention to the processes of exhibition review. I must note that I was not responding to John McDonald’s review. Rather, I was reflecting on your need to contain the potential scope of the project given the time and energy available.</p>
<p>As you deliberated about what could still be covered, while allowing space for new issues to arise, I needed to put my hand up and stress that the issue of reviewing should not be left out. This is because, as you have stated, the broader philosophical question of how value is ascribed to human endeavours underpins all your auditing activities. </p>
<p>Also, while the presentation of exhibitions is related to, it is not the same as vital activities such as specific art projects, participatory actions and campaigns which Catriona refers to. Exhibitions have their own protocols for reviewing which are interweave all gallery-sited relationships. I have appreciated the opportunity to think about how these inherited ‘auditing’ processes relate to emerging approaches to evaluation and assessment of which Environmental Audit is an expression.</p>
<p>Jasmin</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Time and Waste by Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just picking up on one of the case studies in the blog entry above - the one about the wall labels. This time, the MCA decided NOT to tear down all the labels and replace them with fully integrated ones. Rather, they simply added the extra text as a new label next to the existing one. A minor victory for the audit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just picking up on one of the case studies in the blog entry above &#8211; the one about the wall labels. This time, the MCA decided NOT to tear down all the labels and replace them with fully integrated ones. Rather, they simply added the extra text as a new label next to the existing one. A minor victory for the audit!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Committee Begins! by Diego</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/the-committee-begins/comment-page-1/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well well.
It feels like this is probably the best development ever coming out of the exhibition.
Maybe it was in the air, obviously the new extension would have had undergone some serious scrutiny in terms of best practice, yet, partly because of the transparency enabled by this blog, it feels like the change is creeping in, slowly but surely.
big things and small
well done all
BIG GREENS THUMBS UP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well well.<br />
It feels like this is probably the best development ever coming out of the exhibition.<br />
Maybe it was in the air, obviously the new extension would have had undergone some serious scrutiny in terms of best practice, yet, partly because of the transparency enabled by this blog, it feels like the change is creeping in, slowly but surely.<br />
big things and small<br />
well done all<br />
BIG GREENS THUMBS UP</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Christianity Good for the Environment? by Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.environmental-audit.net/is-christianity-good-for-the-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-2851</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...as an addendum to this, my mum just sent me through &lt;a href=&quot;http://voicerev-sharemyjourney.blogspot.com/2010/10/johan-huibers-and-amazing-noahs-ark.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this link to a fellow who has made a full replica of Noah&#039;s ark&lt;/a&gt;, following all the original instructions &quot;as a testament to his faith in the literal truth of the Bible&quot;. Incredible, frightening, bizarre!

&lt;img src=&quot;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EF7CEGIbIKc/TKgIXyzZApI/AAAAAAAADog/vgrqzjEa-Yo/s320/!cid_003d01cb624d$a2aa1350$1ee1444f@oemfbbcd5c413a.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;noahs ark&quot;&gt;

Mum writes:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Yes
There are apparently huge pockets of the US that still believe in creationism - against all evidence to the contrary and against all knowledge of human nature and psychology and history which shows we absolutely need to mythologise our history and beliefs...

Have you read &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx_and_Crake&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake&lt;/a&gt;? I was fascinated at the end to find that the new generation of humans devising rituals against all odds and manoeuvres to the contrary...
 
I’d love to know if it floats and even sails!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The ark, of course, is relevant to this discussion, as it was the original method of saving biodiversity during a massive rise in global sea levels...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;as an addendum to this, my mum just sent me through <a href="http://voicerev-sharemyjourney.blogspot.com/2010/10/johan-huibers-and-amazing-noahs-ark.html" rel="nofollow">this link to a fellow who has made a full replica of Noah&#8217;s ark</a>, following all the original instructions &#8220;as a testament to his faith in the literal truth of the Bible&#8221;. Incredible, frightening, bizarre!</p>
<p><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EF7CEGIbIKc/TKgIXyzZApI/AAAAAAAADog/vgrqzjEa-Yo/s320/!cid_003d01cb624d$a2aa1350$1ee1444f@oemfbbcd5c413a.jpg" alt="noahs ark"/></p>
<p>Mum writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Yes<br />
There are apparently huge pockets of the US that still believe in creationism &#8211; against all evidence to the contrary and against all knowledge of human nature and psychology and history which shows we absolutely need to mythologise our history and beliefs&#8230;</p>
<p>Have you read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx_and_Crake" rel="nofollow">Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake</a>? I was fascinated at the end to find that the new generation of humans devising rituals against all odds and manoeuvres to the contrary&#8230;</p>
<p>I’d love to know if it floats and even sails!
</p></blockquote>
<p>The ark, of course, is relevant to this discussion, as it was the original method of saving biodiversity during a massive rise in global sea levels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organisational Change by Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I asked Amy who is collating all the media at the MCA, and it seems that besides the John McDonald review posted above, there aren&#039;t any critical evaluations of the show yet. Mainly just &quot;media release re-hashes&quot; and interviews with the artists and curators etc.

However, I googled around and found the following. Catriona and Jasmin, here are a few more reviews of the show for your perusal: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.cofa.unsw.edu.au/artwrite/?p=654&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;To Keep Your Balance You Must Keep Moving&lt;/em&gt; by Elliot Shields&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.cofa.unsw.edu.au/artwrite/?p=566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;In The Balance&lt;/em&gt; by Genevieve Barry&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked Amy who is collating all the media at the MCA, and it seems that besides the John McDonald review posted above, there aren&#8217;t any critical evaluations of the show yet. Mainly just &#8220;media release re-hashes&#8221; and interviews with the artists and curators etc.</p>
<p>However, I googled around and found the following. Catriona and Jasmin, here are a few more reviews of the show for your perusal: </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.cofa.unsw.edu.au/artwrite/?p=654" rel="nofollow"><em>To Keep Your Balance You Must Keep Moving</em> by Elliot Shields</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.cofa.unsw.edu.au/artwrite/?p=566" rel="nofollow"><em>In The Balance</em> by Genevieve Barry</a></p>
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